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I have a rebuild kit for the original so fingers crossed it shouldn't be a problem if there is a problem if you know what I mean :)

 

One of the Chinese 36IV problems seems to be that after a while , the float sinks as it absorbs petrol , a good replacement from such as Burlen is abt. £18 so the cheap carb is no longer cheap. It could be a problem they have now resolved ?

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Oil and Radio's

 

 

Land Rover Rebuild

Posted by min200 Sun, February 15, 2015 17:50:51

 

 

Off we went to the first 4x4 show of our season this morning at Donington and it was nice to be out and about staring at other folks motors and all of the bits and bobs that you can bolt on to your pride and joy but it is not a big show hence its held indoors which was nice on a foggy cold morning it doesn't take long to wander around it.

 

 

Now as you know I ahve been thinking of what to do with my now more or less rebuilt Land Rover as times will be changing in a year or so and today was a good opportunity to have a look at what can be done with Discoveries from the subtle to the outrageous! Well Wifey does like a Discovery it turns out and I have been told in no uncertain terms by her that I am NOT to sell Mator on but keep him and maybe return him back to military standard not in a full FFR set up way but just not to mess him about. Then what we will do is buy a Discovery make it off road ready and we will both play with it and it will be there for winter driving if I need it instead of the bike!

 

 

Anyone else think my Wife is a keeper!

 

 

So I will be looking soon enough for a Disco project to add to the collection which is superb and I am looking forward to the challenge of playing with a new project getting just how I want it. After a quick drive into Derbyshire for some lunch we got home and I set back to sorting the gearbox oil out on Mator. When I ran him out a couple of weeks back he was pretty noisy and upon further investigation he needed quite a bit of oil in the gearbox after I checked with a couple of groups I was taking the right plug out and not heading toward an oil shower. As I was underneath I checked the transfer box oil level and it turned out there was next to nothing in there so I am glad I looked before driving any sort of distance. How I overlooked doing this on the rebuild baffles me but at least it is done now!

 

 

I did manage to pick up some of the correct electrical connectors at the Donington show to wire in the CB. This only took a couple of minutes and it was nice to see my Christmas present crackle to life for the first time but it appeared there was no one local who wanted to play Smokey and the Bandit with me which spoilt my fun just a bit.

 

 

Right then I am off to trawl the tinterweb looking for a cheap Disco see you on the other side!

 

 

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Lpg Mator, simple solution

i wish your daughter well too, i did read what you wrote somewhere else.

do i need to bring a spare ignition for you? I should have a few in holland.

 

 

Thanks Daughter is on the mend and as for LPG it will take away from the originality of Mator so I wont be going down that road. Check out the post above I will be looking for a Disco to add to what will now be a collection ;)

 

As for teh offer of an ignition it's all good thanks I have a few spares built up now :)

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One of the Chinese 36IV problems seems to be that after a while , the float sinks as it absorbs petrol , a good replacement from such as Burlen is abt. £18 so the cheap carb is no longer cheap. It could be a problem they have now resolved ?

 

 

If I am honest I am not expecting excellence for £60 but a bought a good rebuild kit so the original will be sat waiting to go back into place if needs be :) Covering all bases!

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I purchased on a few years ago for abt. £40 inc. P&P just to get my hands on one to have a look. At the time that it was cheaper than filling a tank with 10 gallons. Tried it out , it did run Ok - so drained it and put it in the box of spares I carry on a long trip , touch wood.

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[h=2]Quiet...shhh[/h]MusingsPosted by min200 Thu, February 19, 2015 21:48:32

OK then folks firstly I must say sorry I know I know I have been quiet of late but there is more upcoming for "MY CV" and there will be Landy updates over the weekend.

 

Life has been getting in the way with interviews lined up, more on that to follow very soon, as well as the normal dull everyday stuff involving kids Wives cars and holidays that will be here soon enough :) So stay tuned don't disappear on me normal service will be resumed shortly :)

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Fuel lines & Fine tuning.

 

 

Land Rover Rebuild

Posted by min200 Fri, February 20, 2015 15:42:52

 

 

Today has been a good day it started well enough with Wifey bringing me a brew in bed so I sat there enjoying a relaxing start to the day planning ahead the things I had to do. It started with taking the cheap inline fuel filter out of the Landy...

 

 

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Now this filter has been the cause of some concern seeing as it never seemed to fill up with fuel and as the new carb I fitted seemed to struggle with a bit of fuel starvation from time to time I decided for the few minutes it would take to remove the filter and fit a pipe in its place it was worth doing to see what effect it would have...

 

 

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With that done I had to hop onto the motorbike because it has been running pretty roughly this past week or so and as it is my daily runner I couldn't ignore its ever increasing complaints about running badly. Turned out the previous owner had put over a litre too much oil in it as well as the spark plugs being as old as the hills and cheap crap to boot. So an oil change new plugs fitted then a good all round clean up of connections along with liberal amounts of WD40 around the place I expected a nice purr to the engine.

 

 

It wouldn't even turn over! I sat there scratching my head wondering what I had done wrong?? After a bit of bad language and wiggling of connections it fired up sounding better than it ever has done. A ride around the block confirmed the fact that it now ran like it should along with more power than before so that job was struck off of the list.

 

 

I looked at the Landy with a sinking feeling in my stomach because I had to take it for a drive to warm it through properly to make sure the carb was set up right but after our last drive with it running like a bag of spanners I wasn't looking forward to finding out I had done it wrong or not enjoying driving it again. So with apprehension I got into the drivers seat fired the old boy up then pulled out onto the dual carriage way.

 

 

 

 

The ride was smooth the engine pulled smoothly with no spluttering hiccuping coughing or stalling. The gear changes were smoother than before probably due to having the right amount of oil in the box now and I found myself relaxing into the ride. Gearbox along with engine noise was well down on my last outing then I came to a steep hill realising this was going to be the next test. Foot pushing down on the accelerator the two and a quarter engine responded well as it should pulling me steadily up the hill still gaining speed. Next was the down hill stretch testing for backfires spluttering popping and of course the brakes again all was well with no overrun just a nice smooth deceleration.

 

 

By now I was really starting to relax into it and despite my earlier worries and apprehensions I was enjoying myself. Mator was driving like a different motor almost like a newer motor certainly the best I had ever felt him go so far and my confidence in him build up quite nicely. So after a few miles I ended up home then with a quick tweak on the tickover of the carb he was parked up on the driveway and I have the confidence in starting to use him regularly to see what new ways he can breakdown.

 

 

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Steering Wheels & Carbs

 

 

Land Rover Rebuild

Posted by min200 Sat, February 28, 2015 17:32:52

 

 

I have been a bit quiet of late I know but I do have a good excuse and a letter from my Mum so if you have the time I will tell you why.

 

 

You know how you get bored with work think the grass is greener on the other side and wish you could be there. That feeling that life is passing you by and how the hell did you end up doing what you are doing for a living even though the money is good well thats where I have been for a few months now but I have enough about me to know which side my bread is buttered so I started to look around seriously for another job when out of the blue an advert went up at work looking for another Driver trainer to be added to their team so I jumped at it and applied. Whether or not I would make an arse of myself I didn't know but I was invited much to my surprise to interview that would include a ten minute presentation by me about anything I wanted as long as it was within the transport industry remit.

 

 

Well this had opened a can of worms hadn't it I mean the last time I had looked at Powerpoint was donkeys years back and now I had to make one up from scratch with "updated" software that I had no idea what most of it did but I got stuck in and after two long weekend days had a presentation put together which left me to practice it making sure I sounded like I knew what I was on about without tripping over my tongue letting my lisp and stutter return like a steam train crashing through the end of the tracks.

 

 

"Sod it" I thought I will test it out on the family so the poor buggers had to endure me babbling spitting lisping and stuttering my way through my creation...twice...then twice more until I had it down pat. A couple of showers later for them to rinse away the spittle and I thought "I might be ok at this" I put it to bed until the interview the next day.

 

 

The interview went well there were only a couple of folk grilling me and it was soon time to get my presentation going and it was at this point the main interviewer went off and got the head honcho of the contract to sit in and watch. I mean talk about sending your nerves up through all of the notches no pressure eh!! Somehow I got through it sounding bloody stupid on the inside of my head but portraying a calm confident figure to all present who all gave me good feedback. I made it through the first hurdle to the second a few days later much to my surprise which was an extended driving assessment which included a talking drive from me saying all I could see and was doing...me doing that whilst nervous trying to control my Artic trying not to lisp stutter or give the assessor a shower in my spit...well it went ok despite my nerves and I even managed to answer the questions he threw at me when I didn't need to be talking correctly! Turns out we were down to three candidates and they will be seeing the final one next week so we will all be informed by Friday who has got the job.

 

 

The reason I really wanted it was because it's a good sideways move with extensive training paid for by the company that you get to keep of course it's a direction I had been considering but put on the back burner due to the costs involved so an opportunity like this doesn't come up very often. Hell I have given it my best shot so what will be will be eh ;)

 

 

Anyways folks you don't want to hear anymore on that you want to know what I have done to the Landy and I have managed to have a couple of nice days on different bits and bobs which has been relaxing and bloody enjoyable to boot I do like to have a tinker!

 

 

Wednesday night was meeting at the pub night with Notts Landy Club also the first time I had the chance to show Mator off to them so I rushed home from work dumped the bike jumped in the Landy and shot straight up there. Folk liked him with oohhs and ahhs but they would wouldn't they after all they are all Land Rover nuts but I did notice the steering was a bit tight not just heavy then with a bit of a realisation I realised I had not checked any of the steering fluid in both the boxes so that was the first job to do on Friday afternoon as well as trying to figure out why the dashboard lights didn't work as well.

 

 

It rained hard on the way home though and in about fifteen seconds in true landy fashion I could not see bugger all out of the windows for steam so that coupled with the spare wheel cover I had fitted to the wheel on the bonnet opening like a parachute I drove home using the power of the force more than any of my own senses.

 

 

Friday afternoon arrived I checked the steering fluid which was all good the stiffness wasn't that bad and has loosened up since so it was probably more in my mind than anything else after a long day driving a truck but the dash lights were next...

 

 

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Front off again and time to trace spaghetti which I promptly lost somewhere behind the dashboard but found the other end behind the convoy light switch where it was supposed to be but it has at some point been cut off and taped up. I put the dash back together thought "sod it" and left it be for now. I will put it on the list for a summer dry day job I am not pulling the whole dash out looking for some squaddies bodge in the cold and wet!

 

 

This morning I got to take the longest drive in the old boy yet and I have to admit after hating it before the old boy is now growing on me partly to the fact he runs right now has not over heated spat his dummy out in a big way or caught fire. We went to collect a set of series wheels because after getting rid of the ones that came with it I decided that was a mistake and I want a set for back up in case I buy the Discovery I have been threatening to do which I would use Mators wheels on and fit some 7.50 16s back onto him like he should have.

 

 

The wheels were not bad...

 

 

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But a quick coat of NATO green put them back where they needed to be...

 

 

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No rush to find the tyres they will come along when they are ready at the right money.

Now what to do it was only lunchtime so I decided to see if I could mess up the Zenith carb rebuild I had planned to create me a spare.

 

 

I grabbed the carb the rebuild kit thought "how hard can it be?" and set to. I surprised myself if you havn't rebuilt a carb because yo thought it might be too hard I strongly suggest you give it a bash because in under two hours I had mine stripped cleaned out and rebuilt. It's nice to have a spare as back up incase my cheapy copy gives up the ghost!

 

 

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That's it folks we are up to date next job will be sorting out the rear interior after I have been off road next Saturday for the first time in him next week. That should be a good update!

 

 

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Cycling & BBQ

 

 

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Posted by min200 Sat, March 07, 2015 17:26:26

 

 

You all know I don't sleep a great deal but my limits have been pushed even for me. Complain I cant really because the cause of my lack of sleep has been a trip to New York that I wont bore you Landy nuts about on this post but there's a bit about it on my site http://www.justturned40.co.uk but part of the return trip was the "Red Eye" overnight back so I ended up staying awake for the best part of two days.

 

 

This had a bit of a strange knock on effect in the fact that I finally got to bed last night then slept for ten hours straight which is unusual to say the least but buggered me up meeting up with Nottingham Land Rover Club for the day off roading because I got up so late. I jumped out of bed text a friend in the club saying I would be a couple of hours then ten minutes later I felt like I had been hit by a train. Exhausted rough tired groggy and generally feeling like a sack of **** I soon realised I was not going to be spending the day playing off road.

 

 

So another text later saying I wouldn't be going then a couple back calling me a poof (quite rightly but hell it's been a busy week) the day was open to new suggestions. I forced some breakfast down my throat rehydrated as best I could when my youngest daughter suggested a drive out in Mator to the woods where we could do some gentle cycling to get the blood pumping again...make or break time for a body reset.

 

 

The bikes were thrown into the Landy along with lots of water for me and Mator took off on his longest drive to date and he performed flawlessly all the way there...

 

 

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There was a strange clicking noise to start as we got up to speed but this soon passed away and I havn't heard it again since I guess like all good old motors it is freeing up some parts that have not moved at speed in quite some time.

 

 

We had a nice six mile cycle around the woods at a very steady pace...

 

 

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and I found my grogginess dissipating as my heart rate increased so much so I built up an appetite so maybe it was time for a cheeky lunch out treat with my daughter.

 

 

The first few places I tried had full car parks and seeing as the Landy has a turning circle the size of a boat and the fact I am not that used to him yet we carried on racking up some rather enjoyable miles through the Nottinghamshire countryside. The typical soup bowl gearbox is challenging to say the least but I seem to be developing a knack for actually getting the gears I want and the ride is either settling down by loosening up it springs after years of resting or I am just loosing the feeling in my body from the constant bouncing around in it either way its becoming a more pleasant experience.

 

 

50 mph seems to be the high speed it wants to sit at once out of the city where the steering still works without too much drift keeping me in a relatively straight line. Not too shabby for a four geared 2.25 petrol that sat around outside doing nothing for more than a decade. The temp gauges both oil and water sit just above the N on the gauges at speed and don't jump up when you come to a stop and there are not any major leaks to be seen.

 

 

We found a nice pub for some lunch the BBQ burgers were "to die for" I have been reliably informed by my daughter and just about every bloke that walked past the Landy stopped for a quick look at it and I know this because we sat in a window seat to keep an eye on it...ok I am lying I just wanted to look at it parked up somewhere else other than my driveway!

 

 

All in all not a bad day in the end considering I felt so rough at the start of it and after looking forward to going off roading for weeks then not making it. Mator will now be used a bit more often to keep his wheels turning and finally I am using him for the reasons I built him spending time with my family doing outdoorsy activities..oh and bloody off roading I will get him out for some off roading!

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Gearbox Bangs

 

 

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Posted by min200 Mon, March 09, 2015 13:02:18

 

 

Seeing as its the last day of my annual leave and there were chores to be run I decided what better way to do it than in the Landy. Driving it has been growing on me as of late after a bumpy start so using it often seems to be the best idea to keep it running right well at least it does in my head.

 

 

After various dull chores were completed I had to drive to the local timber reclaim yard about five miles away I got there no problem loaded up a couple of huge sacks of sawdust for the chickens coop knowing a bit bit of mess in Mator doesn't come with the same backlash as getting Wifeys car dusty I jumped back in pulled off in first to find my way blocked by a forklift truck taking a pallet off of a truck. "No worries" I thought as I watched the job being done with first gear still selected and the clutch pedal pushed in...

 

 

Now I best point out here the gearbox has not been the best since I got Mator on the road with difficult gear changes most of the time but I had just put this down to being the typical soup bowl gearbox effect of a series land rover and got used to it.

 

 

A couple of minutes later the forklift driver was done so I started to pull forward then went to change gear...nope that was not going to happen the gear stick was stuck fast in first and did not want to play or move so I quickly dipped the clutch braked to a stop and tried again thinking this feels like a master or slave cylinder issue when there was an almighty bang as I was putting gentle pressure on the gear stick and it popped out of first.

 

 

"Well that's buggered it" I figured wondering if I had the RAC card in my wallet but to my amazement I could select gears no problem at all. In fact I could now select gears easier and better than before as in ever before they all seemed to be in the right position on the end of the gear stick the Landy drove lovely all the way home.

 

 

Now I wonder whether I have actually broken something big inside the gearbox or whether it has freed something off properly that has not been right for the last fifty miles or so since it has been running again? Who knows but any suggestions are welcome but I suppose I will just have to "let it develop" again and not keep it in gear when waiting to move.

 

 

Land Rovers eh! Gotta love em!

 

 

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It might be the release bearing, they can melt. Open up the floor panels, remove gearstick and peek in the flywheel housing. You should see the fork move, see if there is plastic molten and check the driver footwell for oil traces and underneath as the slave drips oil in the bellhousing.

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Check this out , a known trouble spot

 

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/101/219714-GEAR-LEVER-HOUSING.html?search=219714&page=1

 

The special little grub screw 507447 that locates in the main shifter big ball slot is a PITA , comes loose stretches the threads in the alloy housing (I always adapt a longer grub-screw , turn or accurate grind down the location end to size/form) and secure a hex. check-nut against the casting to stiffen it up. Design lasted to the end 35 + years , they should have had more cast metal at the grub screw location.

 

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/992/507447-GEAR-LEVER-HOUSING-GRUB-SCREW.html?search=507447&page=1

 

The other problem (other than the lever breaking off at the big ball) LoL is the small ball end of your lever , when they wear a common bodge is a hex. nut gets welded on the end , found a few !

 

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/6298/FRC2046-GEAR-LEVER-RHD-4-CYLINDER.html?search=frc2046&page=1

 

The O ring that should be on the small ball may be worn / missing.

 

Then I suppose you are on to clutch release , start with a new jump hose LoL

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I have never seen a bodge with the hex welded on. I have seen years of wear and tear that the small ball was gone. As you know your way with modifications for land rovers, you know anything about a easy shifter?

 

You must mean what is known as a "shift-on-the-fly" conversion ?

 

There was a kit mentioned in mags. abt. 1980 - never seen one , just so you did not have to STOP vehicle (to avoid a crunch) changing from High 4x4 to High 4x2

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It should have been a popular adaption, i hardly find anything on it. I did buy half a reduction box once, a defender used it to pto power a home made pulley on the half of that gearbox bit and that powered the dowty pump for hydrolics of the Mk2 hydro winch. That unit is in my rarities cabinet.

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ISTR , it was mainly purchased by people towing heavy trailers. There is the kit fitting instructions to be found somewhere on the internet. It was a more merchantable design than other very similar DIY , IIRC no great invention - just a copy of ways that were being done on USA 4x4 trucks that only had two levers ,, Solihull was always well behind , but it was probably their traditional customer base who likes levers with knobs . Myself , I would never have given one up - better still to add a Fairey OD LoL

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Thanks for all of the advice it is appreciated!

 

I don't think it is the release bearing as it's never changed gear so well as it does now it still drives fine.and there is no drop in fluids anywhere. Honestly I will just carry on driving it for now and see what develops it has been parked up for a long long time so Im sure there will be all sorts of odd noises to start with!

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@Samro hehehehehe ;)

 

It does go off road...

 

 

Land Rover Rebuild

Posted by min200 Sun, March 15, 2015 12:15:56

 

 

I sat staring at Mator this morning and thought bugger it I am off to the local car boot just so I can have a drive in him. He does seem to take an age to warm up engine wise I have noticed and runs a little on the rough side until he does but he is an old man.

 

 

Here's a picture to prove he is slowly starting to venture off of the beaten track...

 

 

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Transfer box seals & Oil slicks

 

 

Land Rover Rebuild

Posted by min200 Sun, March 22, 2015 07:43:18

 

 

I have been quite lucky with Mator my old Series 3 Landy where oil leaks are concerned most people who own Land Rovers constantly joke about them "marking" their spots on driveways with oil leaks but mine has been great apart from just one leak from the front of the transfer box so I decided it was about time I tackled it because as leaks go it was quite a big one.

 

 

Up at the crack of dawn as is my norm these days I grabbed a brew got the baby grow on grabbed my toolbox and slid underneath the Landy to start taking it apart again. First things to come off where the four prop shaft bolts the first three came off with no problems at all but the fourth in good Land Rover tradition rounded off as soon as I put some pressure on it so out came the grinder...

 

 

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I should point out I had drained the oil out of the transfer box as well before I started taking bits off of it even I am not that daft! With the bolts off I moved the prop shaft to one side and was faced with a nut with a split pin through it...

 

 

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The split pin came out easy enough but that bolt decided we were in a fight for our lives and it seriously thought it was going to win...it nearly did. You have to use a pry bar or something similar to stop the whole thing from turning whilst simultaneously trying to undo the bolt that has been in place for years and years and years. I swore at it scrapped my knuckles threw things across the driveway used limbs of my body in better ways than I have ever done in a game of Twister but it would not move.

 

 

I walked away and made a brew muttering to myself what sort of idiot buys an old Land Rover anyway and came to the conclusion I must be some sort of masochist.

 

 

Ten minutes on and my blood pressure approaching something back to normal I assumed the Twister position underneath the Landy and had another stab at it. It undid as if it was only finger tight...bloody Land Rovers but I shook my head smiled to myself and carried on dismantling it all when a river of oil came flooding out of the front of the box all down my arm soaking the baby grow and the clothes I had on underneath. The angle of the driveway must have caused it to sit in there well away from the drainage plug just waiting for me to do something stupid like remove the shaft and seal and give it a way out!

 

 

At this point I just had to laugh out loud wipe myself down and keep digging until I got to the seal which looked like it was in good condition but I after getting all the way into it I changed it anyway. The rebuild went smoothly with it all going back together easily and I replaced the nuts and bolts on the drive shafts with new filled up the transfer box with oil started it up and rove it up and down the driveway a bit to then see it leaking from exactly the same place as before...I was not in the least bit surprised. I have come to terms that this will be my leak and it is quite a good one but this is to make up for the fact it doesn't leak much from anywhere else.

 

 

The second job of the day was to take it for a spin and set up the carb properly as last time I was out it seemed to be underpowered. My mechanic friend who had turned up after the messy oil and seal incident good timing on his part eagerly jumped into the passenger seat for a ride out in "something old school" his words but he is right and off we went. After a few miles it had warmed up and was running way too lean so after a few stops here and there the mixture was tweaked up the tick over turned down and he difference is astounding.

 

 

You may have noticed I have been having a bit of a love hate relationship with Mator of late. I have loved building him and I love working on him but I don't really relish the idea of driving him too far let alone off roading in him but having said that I wouldn't want to sell him either so I have solved the problem...I have just bought myself a Discovery to play off road in and use in the wintertime because I am getting fed up of sliding around on my motorbike on the way to work and back then.

Because I have bought another toy I will change a couple of bits on Mator like the wheels and seats giving him more of the Military sense he had before tipping his hat at the service he provided in his last life.

 

 

BUT this means I have a new project again so watch this space for the next build it isn't going to be long...

 

 

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When I did mine I took the drivers floor plate out, makes like a bit easier for removing the cover plate that bolts to the front of the transfer box.

 

But you still need to be a bit of a contortionist.

 

I did not bother draining my transfer box as mine was a bit of a big failure and most of it was on the driveway in any event.

The joys of a sloping drive.

 

Mike

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